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Compass Pathways Plc (CMPS -1.88%)
Q1 2024 Earnings Call
May 08, 2024, 8:00 a.m. ET
Contents:
- Prepared Remarks
- Questions and Answers
- Call Participants
Prepared Remarks:
Operator
Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the COMPASS Pathways' first quarter 2024 investor call. [Operator instructions] As a reminder, today's program is being recorded. And now, I'd like to introduce your host for today's program, Mr. Stephen Schultz, senior vice president, investor relations.
Please go ahead, sir.
Steve Schultz -- Senior Vice President of Investor Relations
Welcome, all of you, and thank you for joining us today for our first quarter 2024 results conference call to. Again, my name is Steve Schultz, senior vice president of investor relations at COMPASS Pathways. And today, I'm joined by Kabir Nath, our chief executive officer; Dr. Guy Goodwin, our chief medical officer; and Teri Loxam, our chief financial officer.
The call is being recorded and will be available on the COMPASS Pathways' investor relations website shortly after the conclusion of the call and will be archived for a period of 30 days. Before we begin, let me remind everyone that during the call today, the team will be making forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 as amended. You should not place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements. Actual events or results could differ materially from those expressed or implied by any forward-looking statements as a result of various risks, uncertainties and other factors, including those risks and uncertainties described under the heading Risk Factors in our Annual Report on Form 10-K filed with the U.S.
Securities and Exchange Commission and in subsequent filings made by COMPASS with the SEC. Additionally, these forward-looking statements represent our views only as of today and should not be relied upon as representing our views as of any subsequent date. We specifically disclaim any obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements even if our estimates or assumptions change. I'll now hand the call over to Kabir Nath.
Kabir Nath -- Chief Executive Officer
Thanks, Steve. Good day, everyone, and thank you for joining us. First, let me report that COMPASS continues to execute on both of the Phase 3 COMP360 trial in treatment-resistant depression. We're on track to deliver top-line data for the COMP 005 single-dose placebo-controlled study in the fourth quarter of this year.
And for the COMP 006 fixed repeat dose trial in mid-2025. We're also actively working on completing all necessary preclinical and clinical pharmacology studies required for a COMP360 and NDA dossier. Also in this quarter, we announced additional commercial collaborations with leading mental healthcare providers, designed to inform the development of scalable and cost-effective delivery models for COMP360 psilocybin treatment, if approved, for treatment-resistant depression. The most recent announcements of the Journey Clinical and Mindful Health Solutions collaborations add to those we already have in place with Reliant Medical Group, part of OptumCare, Greenbrook TMS, and Hackensack Meridian Health.
Each of these partners represent very different, but equally important commercial models and setting of care for patients. These collaborations are focused on investigating challenges with the current patient care experience. They will assist COMPASS and these leading metal healthcare providers to better understand how COMP360 may best fit into diverse care setting and also enable COMPASS to develop commercial delivery templates in these different care settings. These collaborations, plus the CPT III tracking code that went into effect in January are important steps toward preparing the market for a COMP360 psilocybin treatment option, if approved.
Let me now hand the call over to Dr. Guy Goodwin for a clinical update. Guy?
Guy Goodwin -- Chief Medical Officer
Thank you, Kabir. It's a pleasure to speak to everyone today and review the positive data generated from the COMP360 Phase 2 clinical study in PTSD. We hope you have the opportunity to review the press release from this morning summarizing the results. This study included three clinical sites in the U.S.
and the U.K., the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai in New York, Sunstone Therapies in Rockville, Maryland, and the Institute of Psychiatry, Psychology & Neuroscience at King's College in London. Now let me go through some of the specific results we saw with this PTSD study. The study was an open-label multicenter Phase 2 exploratory study evaluating COMP360 psilocybin treatment in 22 patients with PTSD resulting from trauma in adulthood. Participants received a single 25-milligram dose along with psychological support.
Psychological support was provided by a licensed medical professional to ensure patient safety by preparing participants for the treatment session, observing and being present with patients during the session and supporting them after the session. The majority of patients entered the study with symptoms of PTSD categorized as severe with a mean CAPS-5 total score at baseline of 47.5. The CAPS-5 assessment involves a structured interview that provides a PTSD diagnosis aligned with DSM-5 and measure the average severity of 20 symptoms. The average age of participants at the time of screening was 39, and four participants had prior lifetime experience with psilocybin.
Veteran status and combat exposure were evaluated as were measures of the dissociative PTSD subtype. Patients diagnosed with complex PTSD were excluded from study eligibility. The effects of the COMP360 treatment on the CAPS-5 score were assessed at week four and again week 12 to assess durability of effect. Study observations also included an improvement from baseline in mean SDS score, a measure of functional impairment in daily life.
Safety over 12 weeks was the primary endpoint of this study and administration of COMP360 in this patient group was well tolerated with no serious adverse events observed. We're also pleased to report impressive and sustained rates of response and remission at both week four and week 12. The key findings include administration of COMP360 was well tolerated. There were no treatment emergent serious adverse events.
Treatment emergent adverse events over 10% included headache, nausea, crying and fatigue, predominantly on the day of drug administration. There were two events of suicidal ideation that resolved during the study. The first was a moderate and transient event on administration day in a patient who went on to be a responder. The second event was mild and occurred at week seven in a non-responder.
As a reminder, suicidal ideation is a common feature of PTSD as it is in TRD. We observed an early and durable improvement in symptoms from baseline following a single administration. Improvement in mean CAPS-5 total score from the baseline of 47.5 was observed with a 29.9-point reduction at week four and 29.5 reduction at week 12. We observed increasing improvement in disability over the 12 weeks.
From a mean SDS total score of 22.7 at baseline, there was an 11.7-point reduction at week four and a 14.4-point reduction at week 12. We also saw high and sustained rates of response and remission relative to baseline with early onset of symptom improvement. Response, as defined by patients experience, a greater or equal 15-point improvement on CAPS-5 score was 81.8% at week four and 77.3% at week 12. Remission as defined by CAPS-5 total score of less than or equal to 20, was 63.6% at week four and 54.5% at week 12.
No patients withdrew from the study are none returned to antidepressant medications during the trial. Although a small trial with open-label design, the results exceeded our expectations and advanced our understanding of potential application of COMP360 in PTSD. We were particularly impressed by the early onset and durability of improvement. We believe that COMP360 could provide a clinically meaningful benefit and substantially improve daily function and quality of life in patients with PTSD.
We look forward to submitting the full results of this study for publication and will consider next steps for the program. In addition, to TRD as Kabir mentioned, we are on track for the primary six-week endpoint in COMP 005 during the fourth quarter of this year. We are seeing improvements from the actions we took to facilitate the retreatment of medical records, which created a bottleneck earlier in the year. We also remain on track for COMP 006 for the prior six-week endpoint mid next year.
We are excited by the profile that's emerging for COMP360 across both TRD and PTSD and the potential benefit for patients. We look forward to our Phase 3 results later this year and next year and continuing to progress the broader COMP360 program. Let me now hand the call to Teri for a financial review.
Teri Loxam -- Chief Financial Officer
Thanks, Guy. I'll now step through the Q1 financial results. Cash used in operations in the first quarter was $20.8 million, within the guidance range we provided of $17 million to $23 million and which assumes that 2022 R&D tax credit would be received in the first quarter. I'm pleased to confirm that HMRC paid our 2022 claim of approximately $15 million in full in the first quarter.
Regarding second quarter 2024 financial guidance, we expect net cash used in operations to be between $32 million and $38 million. Turning to full year financial guidance, we expect cash used in operations to be between $110 million and $130 million. COMPASS continues to maintain a strong financial position with cash and cash equivalents of $262.9 million at March 31, 2024. This compares with $220.2 million at December 31, 2023.
The increase in cash in the first quarter is due to proceeds received through the ATM and exercise of warrants from our August 2023 pipe. Long-term debt under Hercules loan facility was $29.1 million at the end of the first quarter. With the cash increase in the first quarter, we now expect our cash runway to fund operations into 2026. We will continue to manage our cash carefully to continue advancing our pivotal program and to achieve important milestones that we believe will create value for our shareholders.
Thank you, and I'll now turn the call back to Kabir.
Kabir Nath -- Chief Executive Officer
Thank you, Teri. With these strong PTSD data, we're now working to schedule a meeting with the FDA and align on potential mix steps. While TRD is our lead indication for COMP360, we see logical expansion into PTSD, given the similarities in patient profiles and the potential commercial synergy. We're looking forward to disclosing our top-line data for our Phase 3 program later this year.
This will be a key milestone for COMPASS and given our leadership a significant event for the field of psilocybin science. We also continue to make great progress with the network of interventional psychiatry centers and mental healthcare providers who can administer COMP360 treatment, if approved. Our expanding collaboration are indications of interest from providers, and we'll continue to develop commercial models that enable rapid, scalable, broad and equitable access to COMP360. I also want to welcome Dr.
Mike Gold to the COMPASS team as our new chief research and development officer, effective May 20. Mike brings more than 25 years of experience across all aspects of drug development in neuroscience, with extensive therapeutic experience in neurological and psychiatric disorders, including depression. Mike will work with Guy to continue to develop COMP360 in TRD and other indications and to explore and advance other potential pipeline opportunities. I want to thank Trevor Mill, COMPASS' current chief development officer, for his dedication and expertise in guiding the development of our COMP360 program over the past several years and exploring additional early pipeline opportunities.
Trevor will leave after a transition period with Mike, and we wish him all the best in his future endeavors. This is an exciting year for COMPASS Pathways, and we look forward to updating you on our continued progress. Thank you again for your participation on today's call. We'll now turn to Q&A, so I'll hand it back to the operator.
Questions & Answers:
Operator
Certainly. One moment for our first question. And our first question comes from the line of Vikram Purohit from Morgan Stanley. Your question please.
Vikram Purohit -- Morgan Stanley -- Analyst
Hi. Good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. So we had 21 PTSD.
So first, could you just frame for us in terms of real-world experience and real-world benefit, what the CAPS-5 and SDS scores that you reported this morning, how to contextualize those in terms of the benefits that patients may observe. And then also, another company in the space recently received notice that the FDA is gonna be scheduling an Ad Comm meeting for early June to review their application for their MDMA assisted therapy for PTSD. Just wanted to see what your thoughts were there on potential implications for your program in the space more broadly? Thank you.
Kabir Nath -- Chief Executive Officer
Thanks, Vikram. It's Stephen. As we start, I just want to make sure you can hear us clearly.
Vikram Purohit -- Morgan Stanley -- Analyst
Yes.
Kabir Nath -- Chief Executive Officer
OK. Great. So I'll hand to Guy to take the first question and maybe the second one I might add on that as well. Guy?
Guy Goodwin -- Chief Medical Officer
Yeah. So I think the way to think about these results is that they reflect the real near return to normality for a significant number of patients in the study. I mean, these rating scales are not terribly familiar. So we're all getting to understand them as we go along.
But basically, they reflect the lowest scores that we see, reflect essentially complete recovery. The average, of course, is not that there's a range of outcomes, but we emphasize, I think, that these very high rates of remission as defined by a minimum score are high. And we think that's important also that they're sustained. I think, I would also draw your attention to the SDS scores.
They reflect a measure of disability that is used across trials. And so, that allows you to look at the impact of other treatments in other conditions, as well as potentially in PTSD. That again reflects the numbers that we show reflect substantial return of function for patients, which is as important as a reduction of symptoms of course. The second question about Lykos.
Kabir Nath -- Chief Executive Officer
Yeah, I mean, let me take that. I mean, I think first, no surprise. This is, as said, the first submission in PTSD for more than a quarter of a century, number one. Second, it is they're currently a Schedule I drug.
So in that sense, no surprise that there is gonna be an Ad Comm. And I would just say we wish them well. And obviously, we, like many other people will be observing very closely how the FDA pauses a number of the key questions around that application.
Vikram Purohit -- Morgan Stanley -- Analyst
Got it. Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. A moment for our next question. And our next question comes from the line of Ritu Baral from TD Cowen. Your question please.
Ritu Baral -- TD Cowen -- Analyst
Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the question. Quick thing on potential positioning versus the Lykos compound and MDA assisted psychotherapy. Kabir and Guy, could you walk us through sort of the nature of the psychological support that you provide? Was there any aspect of exposure therapy, which from my understanding is sort of the basis for the psychological support provided by Lykos.
If you could talk to like the amount and then the nature. And then, I have a follow-up. Thank you.
Kabir Nath -- Chief Executive Officer
Thanks. I'll hand it down in a moment. But I mean, the headline, Ritu, it is no different from what we are doing in TRD. But, Guy, please?
Guy Goodwin -- Chief Medical Officer
Yes. Thanks, Ritu. In fact, we have quite a detailed follow-up questionnaire there, which we'll be publishing the results from in due course. And what that suggests is that essentially patients do not really have the same kind of exposure experience.
There's a little bit of that, but mainly there is really just a change in the way people contextualize their memories and their experience. And that seems to be essentially driven by this inward journey that everyone has heard about in relation to psilocybin. So patients are prepared in the same way as we prepare the TRD group, as you've heard. There's no a specific exposure exercises as would occur with the conventional psychotherapy.
And patients indeed remark, who have had previous psychotherapy in contrast to that, but they feel that they are in a sense of doing their own work. That they are leading themselves and they're not being driven by an external interactive force, which would be the therapist in conventional psychotherapy. So it's a very interesting contrast of the preparation, of course, in terms of hours and so on and the subsequent integration is relatively short. And we think that the efficacy is remarkable given that it's sustained after 12 months.
Ritu Baral -- TD Cowen -- Analyst
Very helpful. And then, can you just talk about some of the exclusion criteria as it relates to suicidality. Did you -- were you able to see patients with a history of suicidality? Was there anything unique in the history of those two patients that did experience suicidality?
Guy Goodwin -- Chief Medical Officer
Yeah. I mean, this is a group, even though this is not complex PTSD, because this was really a first study, we wanted to be careful not to recruit two vulnerable patients in the severe probably the complex PTSD group would be that. So this is a single trauma, which also simplifies the measure of outcome. But these patients also show significant history of suicidality.
So 70% of them have expressed in their lifetimes a wish to be dead, and as many as 30% of them have expressed active suicidal ideation with specific plans and intent. So this is a group that has lifetime suicidality as a feature of the illness. The particular group were, obviously, recruited at the stage where they were not suicidal, and therefore what we're seeing is relatively sub-threshold effects. So there were no serious adverse events, and of course, there were no attempted suicide or suicides, which unfortunately is a risk in this condition.
Ritu Baral -- TD Cowen -- Analyst
Got it. And if I could have just one quick follow-up, and a follow-up to the first question, Kabir, you left us hanging when you said you would have some key questions that you'd love to have answered by the Lykos Ad Comm. Can you elaborate a little further on that? What questions do you have that you hope Ad Comm addresses.
Kabir Nath -- Chief Executive Officer
Well, one thing, and again, it's up to them to comment on how they think that will go. But clearly, and as we've said this before, the Lykos' protocol is therapy. And in fact, your question itself probed at the fact that there is a significant therapeutic component, and that clearly is something that will be interesting to see how the FDA understands that, parses that, and ultimately, if that's successful, how that will be reflected in labeling and so on. I think that's probably the key question, as well as clearly the overall assessment of benefit-risk for what is generally categorized as a psychedelic.
So again, we could get into arcade arguments about that. But I think, again, how the FDA approved should be a little bit of a risk.
Ritu Baral -- TD Cowen -- Analyst
Great. Thank you so much.
Operator
Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question comes from the line of Charles Duncan from Cantor. Your question please.
Charles Duncan -- Cantor Fitzgerald -- Analyst
Hey, good morning. Kabir and team, congrats on the progress. I had a question on PTSD and then one on TRD. On the PTSD data seems fairly robust.
So I guess, at the risk of jumping the gun, I know that you are seeking FDA input, but could you imagine a relatively capital-efficient Phase 3 program, maybe including one or two studies, both with less than, say, roughly 90 patients given the, call it magnitude of change that you're seeing in CAPS-5.
Kabir Nath -- Chief Executive Officer
So, Charles, you're not going to trick me into designing a Phase 3 study on this call. Suffice to say, obviously, we are encouraged by this data. As I said, we clearly are working on plans, development plans. We will need to take a robust outline of that to the agency together with this data to have that discussion.
What that number of trials is, the sizing and so on, is still very much to be determined, but you have my assurance we will be doing it appropriately, trading off robust evidence and capital efficiency. Both of those will be goals in whatever design we put forward.
Charles Duncan -- Cantor Fitzgerald -- Analyst
Appreciate that. Confident in it. Moving on to TRD. Another question, you're probably not gonna be interested in answering, but I'll ask it anyway.
Can you provide any color on the number of patients or at least the kind of pacing of patients into Part B and even Part C in terms of retreatment on a blinded basis in Part B and then open label? Thanks.
Kabir Nath -- Chief Executive Officer
So you were right. The answer is no. I'm not going to give specific, except to say, as we've said, we clearly have patients in both parts. But also importantly, as we've also said that the dropouts are running significantly lower than what we have potentially anticipated in the trial, which I think is again a good sign.
Charles Duncan -- Cantor Fitzgerald -- Analyst
Got it. Thanks for taking the questions.
Operator
Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question comes from the line of Patrick Trucchio from H.C. Wainwright & Co.
Your question please.
Patrick Trucchio -- H.C. Wainwright -- Analyst
Thanks. Good morning, and congrats on this very positive outcome in PTSD. I'm wondering if you can talk a little bit about the trial design for the Phase 2 study in PTSD relative to the FDA guidance for psychedelic drug development and discuss any of the learnings that have emerged that could have an impact or inform the potential Phase 3 trial in PTSD. And then, secondly, I'm wondering regarding the pivotal Phase 1 trial in TRD with top-line data expected in the fourth quarter.
Can you frame for us what data you would expect to include in that top-line release? And how we should think about the outcome from the study relative to both the Phase 2b trial in TRD, as well as possible read-through to the outcome from the pivotal trial two in TRD where the top-line data is expected mid-2025.
Kabir Nath -- Chief Executive Officer
Thanks, Patrick. So I'll hand to Guy in a moment. But I guess, just the first thing to say, a reminder, this Phase 2 was an open-label 22-patient study. But let me hand to Guy to say anything around the FDA guidance that will inform how we think about further design.
Guy Goodwin -- Chief Medical Officer
Yeah, I mean, the FDA, obviously, expressed an interest in seeing comparisons with another treatment, and that can be placebo or it can be another dose of the active treatment or even an active placebo. So they've left really quite a wide range of options for anyone developing a drug in this space, and we'll take that into account when we think carefully about how we design our Phase 2 and indeed Phase 3 program for PTSD.I don't think there are tremendous differences between TRD and PTSD from what we've seen. But of course, the advantage of a shared safety database with TRD, there's not to read across the PTSD indication.
Kabir Nath -- Chief Executive Officer
And on your second question, Patrick, again, we have not guided to what exactly we'll be in a position to release with top-line. As you're aware, Part B runs to 26 weeks blinded, so we're going to have to be sensitive around that in terms of that. And look, we have powered and designed this study for success, clearly, and we believe that any significant result will be very positive and further evidence of the potential for COMP360 and TRD. And I don't know, Guy, in terms of any read-through from 005 and 006, if you have any comment you want to make?
Guy Goodwin -- Chief Medical Officer
Not really. I mean, I think we see 006, I think as we've said before, Patrick, we see 006 as being particularly informative from a clinical perspective rather than simply a regulatory one. And that it will help us to understand the number of treatments that are probably required in ordinary practice potentially going forward, which is essential to the commercial model and to the acceptability to clinicians and patients as well.
Patrick Trucchio -- H.C. Wainwright -- Analyst
Great. That's helpful. And if I could, just on this -- on the commercial collaborations following another announced today. I'm wondering, do you have an estimate or an expectation for the proportion of the TRD population you may be able to reach at the time of the potential launch based on these commercial collaborations? Or how significant should we think about these collaborations in preparation for possible rollout of COMP360 in TRD? Thanks.
Kabir Nath -- Chief Executive Officer
Thanks, Patrick. It's a great question. So to be clear, these collaborations are already learning exercises. They are examples of different settings of care.
And while some like for instance Greenbrook TMS, we would expect potentially to be numerically a significant contributor to commercial rollout. Other, this is all more about building template, understanding delivery models that we will then need to apply to a wide range of other healthcare settings. So what I would say at this stage is you could think of them really as this learning experience, really to deepen our understanding of the potential, to deepen our understanding of these different areas. But assuming we're fortunate enough to file, you could imagine that the year pre-launch is when we will be really scaling those templates across a number of those different settings and different healthcare providers.
Patrick Trucchio -- H.C. Wainwright -- Analyst
Great. Thanks so much.
Operator
Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question comes from the line of Tom Shrader from BTIG. Your question please.
Tom Shrader -- BTIG -- Analyst
Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. It's a remedial one on PTSD. So patients with your baseline score, what level of impairment do they have, what level of medical care are they using? And would a group like this at some level support the same price as your TRD patients? Thanks.
Guy Goodwin -- Chief Medical Officer
They'd be classified as severe. And one of the criteria for the way in which one scores the CAPS-5 is that it would merit intervention or require intervention when people score two or three, particularly on the scales that are used for each item of symptom. It's a complicated scale, I'm afraid. So it needs a little -- we will be unpacking it a little more in the future.
But that gives you some idea that these are a group who would need treatment, but they're not a group who are sort of mild and coming in for the experience.
Tom Shrader -- BTIG -- Analyst
Any background on how much they're hospitalized?
Guy Goodwin -- Chief Medical Officer
We don't have all of the data on these patients yet. This is very much top line. So when we get all the tables in, we'll be able to give you that color.
Kabir Nath -- Chief Executive Officer
And roughly half were on something an SSRI or antidepressant or something.
Guy Goodwin -- Chief Medical Officer
Yeah, I think all have received previous treatment of some kind. Sorry, if that was the question, then that's the answer. That included psychotherapy, as well as drug treatment. And about half were actively still on drugs, which we then discontinue.
Kabir Nath -- Chief Executive Officer
And Tom, to your second question, I would say we still have a lot of work to do to actually finalize the profile for TRD, let alone PTSD. So again, we couldn't -- genuinely couldn't comment on how many administrations we would see for PTSD, what durability we might expect to see in a subsequent trial and so on. So, honestly, premature to comment on how these would relate to each other commercially.
Tom Shrader -- BTIG -- Analyst
Perfect. Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question comes from the line of Sumant Kulkarni from Canaccord Genuity. Your question please.
Sumant Kulkarni -- Canaccord Genuity -- Analyst
Morning and afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions, and nice to see the PTSD data. I have two. So first, on COMP360, how can the company optimally mitigate the risk associated with suicidal ideation in trials, given both TRD and PTSD have high background rate of this type of event in patients to start with? And second, it's very nice to see Dr.
Michael Gold on board. Given Michael's extensive experience with multi-asset companies, how do you think the strategy of COMPASS might evolve going forward in terms of the types of compounds that COMPASS might be looking at?
Guy Goodwin -- Chief Medical Officer
Well, thanks, Sumant. I think, the standard answer to this is really that we don't recruit patients who are actively suicidal, because it really doesn't seem ethical to randomize them to no treatment or low treatment. And I think everyone takes that approach. Ultimately, it's impossible to completely exclude the existence of suicidality in these sorts of patient populations.
Otherwise, you're not studying a truly generalizable sample. But we insist that our preparation and the support during the administration optimizes the preparedness of patients. And we think for that reason, we're seeing these relatively minor changes in the rating scale. Bear in mind that we have had no attempted suicides or suicides in any of our studies.
And what we are seeing and describing here are changes on a scale, which is sub-threshold for actual events that you would classify as clinically serious, particularly in this study.
Kabir Nath -- Chief Executive Officer
And Sumant to your question, yes, I think, first, we've always said that we need actual credibility with COMP360. And I believe with our progress with TRD and what we've announced today with PTSD, we're well underway to doing that. We do have discovery assets, some of which we could be in a position to advance into first in humans in the relatively short time frame. But I think having established ourselves as a credible developer, late stage developer of drugs, it absolutely is part of our thoughtful strategy to how we might expand into other assets over time.
But recognizing, again, that's not a given. We have to demonstrate credibility and success with our lead assets, and I think we're well on the way to doing that.
Sumant Kulkarni -- Canaccord Genuity -- Analyst
Thanks.
Operator
Thank you. [Operator instructions] And our next question comes from the line of Elemer Piros from Rodman. Your question please.
Elemer Piros -- Rodman and Renshaw -- Analyst
Yes. Good morning. Maybe a question to Guy. Guy, I'm looking at the PTSD results with MDMA from the Phase 3 trial.
And it appears that it takes about 12 weeks to reach maximum benefit with MDMA plus therapy. How does that compare to what you observed with a single dose of COMP360?
Guy Goodwin -- Chief Medical Officer
Our CAPS-5 number is taken at four weeks. It's the first measure we take because it's a four-week measure. And of course, that shows the full effect at four weeks. And it's sustained out at 12 weeks using the same measure.
So that's what we appear to see. We will have an even finer-grained evidence for early, very speedy onset from other measures that we took from patients that we don't yet have available to show you, but we will have them in due course.
Elemer Piros -- Rodman and Renshaw -- Analyst
So do you believe that the results with MDMA are probably due to the second dose, the third dose amplifying the effect and with the end results being about the same reduction in CAPS-5 as what you see?
Guy Goodwin -- Chief Medical Officer
Yes, that's what we all see, yes.
Elemer Piros -- Rodman and Renshaw -- Analyst
Thank you. Thank you very much.
Operator
Thank you. This does conclude the question-and-answer session of today's program. I'd like to hand the program back to management for any further remarks.
Kabir Nath -- Chief Executive Officer
So just to say thanks all for your participation. As I say, I think as we've heard also during the questions, we're very encouraged by this robust signal we've seen in PTSD. We are working to look at what a future plan for the program might be. We continue to execute on the timelines we established in February for COMP 005 and COMP 006 and TRD, and I think, therefore, we are looking forward to exciting news later in the year.
So thanks everyone for your participation. Thanks for your support. I wish everyone a very good rest of the day.
Operator
[Operator signoff]
Duration: 0 minutes
Call participants:
Steve Schultz -- Senior Vice President of Investor Relations
Kabir Nath -- Chief Executive Officer
Guy Goodwin -- Chief Medical Officer
Teri Loxam -- Chief Financial Officer
Vikram Purohit -- Morgan Stanley -- Analyst
Ritu Baral -- TD Cowen -- Analyst
Charles Duncan -- Cantor Fitzgerald -- Analyst
Patrick Trucchio -- H.C. Wainwright -- Analyst
Tom Shrader -- BTIG -- Analyst
Sumant Kulkarni -- Canaccord Genuity -- Analyst
Elemer Piros -- Rodman and Renshaw -- Analyst
